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	<title>Comments on: Google Should Have Made The gPhone</title>
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		<title>By: Archos 704</title>
		<link>http://www.androidguys.com/2008/06/28/google-should-have-made-the-gphone/comment-page-1/#comment-1801</link>
		<dc:creator>Archos 704</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 17:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the second time I visit your blog and find an interesting article perfectly matching what I was searching for so I decided to add your feed to my RSS Reader. Thanks for you work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the second time I visit your blog and find an interesting article perfectly matching what I was searching for so I decided to add your feed to my RSS Reader. Thanks for you work.</p>
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		<title>By: TareX</title>
		<link>http://www.androidguys.com/2008/06/28/google-should-have-made-the-gphone/comment-page-1/#comment-1799</link>
		<dc:creator>TareX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 11:23:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve always loved that white gPhone design you guys have up there...

Especially if it came with a slideout qwerty... vertical or horizontal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I've always loved that white gPhone design you guys have up there...</p>
<p>Especially if it came with a slideout qwerty... vertical or horizontal.</p>
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		<title>By: JerryA</title>
		<link>http://www.androidguys.com/2008/06/28/google-should-have-made-the-gphone/comment-page-1/#comment-1800</link>
		<dc:creator>JerryA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 16:50:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If Google started with the gPhone, it would be a HEAD ON collision with appleâ€™s iPhone. Total loss. iPhone wins on 3rd party apps alone.&quot;

Not really.  The Android platform would be a lot easier to develop for right off the bat if there was a standard gPhone.  With the iPhone you had to wait for someone to hack it, build new hacks to get around the relocking from Apple, and now they are finally going to allow approved 3rd party apps.  Their main advantage is strong hardware that is standard across their single phone.  It&#039;s basically always Apple&#039;s strong suit.  They limit the hardware so they can build a more specialized OS that is locked to the hardware and that they control.  If Google made an iPhone-class phone that was also open and not tied to a carrier, it would be a much better device than the iPhone by far.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"If Google started with the gPhone, it would be a HEAD ON collision with appleâ€™s iPhone. Total loss. iPhone wins on 3rd party apps alone."</p>
<p>Not really.  The Android platform would be a lot easier to develop for right off the bat if there was a standard gPhone.  With the iPhone you had to wait for someone to hack it, build new hacks to get around the relocking from Apple, and now they are finally going to allow approved 3rd party apps.  Their main advantage is strong hardware that is standard across their single phone.  It's basically always Apple's strong suit.  They limit the hardware so they can build a more specialized OS that is locked to the hardware and that they control.  If Google made an iPhone-class phone that was also open and not tied to a carrier, it would be a much better device than the iPhone by far.</p>
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		<title>By: TareX</title>
		<link>http://www.androidguys.com/2008/06/28/google-should-have-made-the-gphone/comment-page-1/#comment-1796</link>
		<dc:creator>TareX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 22:49:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Google started with the gPhone, it would be a HEAD ON collision with apple&#039;s iPhone. Total loss. iPhone wins on 3rd party apps alone.

I&#039;m all ok with releasing Android first. But the time frame.... total nonsense. When Windows Mobile 7 comes out, I KNOW I&#039;ll forget something called &quot;Android&quot; was even suggested.

Unless a Christmas miracle happens and WM7 isn&#039;t the next-gen OS is was meant to be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Google started with the gPhone, it would be a HEAD ON collision with apple's iPhone. Total loss. iPhone wins on 3rd party apps alone.</p>
<p>I'm all ok with releasing Android first. But the time frame.... total nonsense. When Windows Mobile 7 comes out, I KNOW I'll forget something called "Android" was even suggested.</p>
<p>Unless a Christmas miracle happens and WM7 isn't the next-gen OS is was meant to be.</p>
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		<title>By: Darwin OS</title>
		<link>http://www.androidguys.com/2008/06/28/google-should-have-made-the-gphone/comment-page-1/#comment-1798</link>
		<dc:creator>Darwin OS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 13:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some Times when we&#039;re writting Application for Android we don&#039;t real know how we can build the Interface! Android Phones will have Touch Screen, Multi-Touch(I hope), Qwerty Keyboard and so on. As developer you can&#039;t real foresee in what kind of Phone you Application will be used! When I began to develop for the iPhone it was real easy! my Application just looks in all iPhone the same and the inputs Methode are the same. it real improve the Usabilitiy.

Google should real make a gPhone. if the don&#039;t want to spezification for the Handset Makers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some Times when we're writting Application for Android we don't real know how we can build the Interface! Android Phones will have Touch Screen, Multi-Touch(I hope), Qwerty Keyboard and so on. As developer you can't real foresee in what kind of Phone you Application will be used! When I began to develop for the iPhone it was real easy! my Application just looks in all iPhone the same and the inputs Methode are the same. it real improve the Usabilitiy.</p>
<p>Google should real make a gPhone. if the don't want to spezification for the Handset Makers.</p>
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		<title>By: Todd</title>
		<link>http://www.androidguys.com/2008/06/28/google-should-have-made-the-gphone/comment-page-1/#comment-1797</link>
		<dc:creator>Todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 13:05:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>( Good &quot;meaty&quot; op ed post, we need more of these here )

&quot;Google in the hardware business&quot; - I have had that same impulse, and yeah it would probably accelerate an actual physical phone, but at what price? The overhead to start making physical objects is huge, and Google hasn&#039;t been very successful in the past with their search sever:

So, let&#039;s give the feet dragging carriers a few more months to face reality or die a horrible Darwinistic death. Remember market forces will always fill a profitable void ( American electronics and cars R.I.P. ). If the evil carriers want to maintain their ability to bind their ( awful ) content with their service and their hardware, they&#039;ll have to release an Android handset - if they don&#039;t, someone else will.

*Weird to think about. Imagine if when you bought a new Sony TV it only let you watch Sony content ( Sony owns Columbia movie studio and Viacom ) and only let you use the Playstation - No xbox, no ABC or ESPN, if you wanted to watch ontent from a different providers, you&#039;d have to buy another TV ( !!! )

...That&#039;s what the carriers want to be able to continue to do!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>( Good "meaty" op ed post, we need more of these here )</p>
<p>"Google in the hardware business" - I have had that same impulse, and yeah it would probably accelerate an actual physical phone, but at what price? The overhead to start making physical objects is huge, and Google hasn't been very successful in the past with their search sever:</p>
<p>So, let's give the feet dragging carriers a few more months to face reality or die a horrible Darwinistic death. Remember market forces will always fill a profitable void ( American electronics and cars R.I.P. ). If the evil carriers want to maintain their ability to bind their ( awful ) content with their service and their hardware, they'll have to release an Android handset - if they don't, someone else will.</p>
<p>*Weird to think about. Imagine if when you bought a new Sony TV it only let you watch Sony content ( Sony owns Columbia movie studio and Viacom ) and only let you use the Playstation - No xbox, no ABC or ESPN, if you wanted to watch ontent from a different providers, you'd have to buy another TV ( !!! )</p>
<p>...That's what the carriers want to be able to continue to do!</p>
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		<title>By: Charbax</title>
		<link>http://www.androidguys.com/2008/06/28/google-should-have-made-the-gphone/comment-page-1/#comment-1795</link>
		<dc:creator>Charbax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 19:31:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Google should have bought Archos and release an Android powered PMP/Google/IPTV/VOIP/GPS/HSDPA device based on the Texas Instruments DaVinci and sell it exclusively online from google.com all the while also doing the whole Open Handset Alliance work as they are doing now to encourage all others such as Motorola, Samsung, HTC and others to participate in using the Android platform.

The problem is, Google thinks it has to play it like Microsoft and Intel has been doing it for decades. Google doesn&#039;t want to be a hardware manufacturer, they figured they&#039;d rather stay neutral and provide the platforms and help companies optimize the platform on reference designs based on each of the ARM processor architechtures out there, be it Texas Instruments DaVinci, Qualcomm Snapdragon, Freescale, Samsung, Nvidia Tegra, Marvell Xscale and others.

Google is probably thinking the same thing for when they target Google Android to laptops (probably within the next few months), Google wouldn&#039;t want to release a 100 dollar Google Laptop themselves, they&#039;ll rather help other companies on reference designs and sit and watch those other companies try to make profit margins and feed the intermediaries as the established consumer electronics industry is used to.

Somehow it seems Google is afraid to bet on making hardware themselves and sell it themselves. They might think they shouldn&#039;t risk making the established consumer electronics industry mad at them. &quot;You don&#039;t try to compete with your own partners&quot; they must be thinking. Though I think the best solution ultimately might be a single mass produced 100 dollar Pocket Google Android device and a 100 dollar Google Android Laptop, each fully open source while still running all software patented codecs and features needed, each using VOIP and other free and disruptive IP technologies and built around giving the users the maximum control. Google could thus mass manufacture the Pocket and Laptop Android device and sell them like OLPC does, like a non-profit. Cause Google shouldn&#039;t try to make a profit on selling hardware even if they manufacture and sell it themselves, Google makes more money when more people use the Internet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Google should have bought Archos and release an Android powered PMP/Google/IPTV/VOIP/GPS/HSDPA device based on the Texas Instruments DaVinci and sell it exclusively online from google.com all the while also doing the whole Open Handset Alliance work as they are doing now to encourage all others such as Motorola, Samsung, HTC and others to participate in using the Android platform.</p>
<p>The problem is, Google thinks it has to play it like Microsoft and Intel has been doing it for decades. Google doesn't want to be a hardware manufacturer, they figured they'd rather stay neutral and provide the platforms and help companies optimize the platform on reference designs based on each of the ARM processor architechtures out there, be it Texas Instruments DaVinci, Qualcomm Snapdragon, Freescale, Samsung, Nvidia Tegra, Marvell Xscale and others.</p>
<p>Google is probably thinking the same thing for when they target Google Android to laptops (probably within the next few months), Google wouldn't want to release a 100 dollar Google Laptop themselves, they'll rather help other companies on reference designs and sit and watch those other companies try to make profit margins and feed the intermediaries as the established consumer electronics industry is used to.</p>
<p>Somehow it seems Google is afraid to bet on making hardware themselves and sell it themselves. They might think they shouldn't risk making the established consumer electronics industry mad at them. "You don't try to compete with your own partners" they must be thinking. Though I think the best solution ultimately might be a single mass produced 100 dollar Pocket Google Android device and a 100 dollar Google Android Laptop, each fully open source while still running all software patented codecs and features needed, each using VOIP and other free and disruptive IP technologies and built around giving the users the maximum control. Google could thus mass manufacture the Pocket and Laptop Android device and sell them like OLPC does, like a non-profit. Cause Google shouldn't try to make a profit on selling hardware even if they manufacture and sell it themselves, Google makes more money when more people use the Internet.</p>
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		<title>By: death to the masses</title>
		<link>http://www.androidguys.com/2008/06/28/google-should-have-made-the-gphone/comment-page-1/#comment-1794</link>
		<dc:creator>death to the masses</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 19:08:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand where u are coming from and to me its not a bad idea, but I would have to side with Google here. The most important thing about Android is the software and if they have released a Gphone first before Android then there would be little applications out there to back it up. By releasing the stack first before the hardware, developers would get more familiar and by have their applications ready in time for the release of the first phone. When users get a hold of the first Android, they most likely will not have to deal with underpar and rushed applications from developers who had less time to play around with it.

Thats just my opinion which might not make any sense.

Note: this opinion is not of my own, there is a section of my brain that creates  random opinions on the fly thus i have no control of whatever that was written here today</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand where u are coming from and to me its not a bad idea, but I would have to side with Google here. The most important thing about Android is the software and if they have released a Gphone first before Android then there would be little applications out there to back it up. By releasing the stack first before the hardware, developers would get more familiar and by have their applications ready in time for the release of the first phone. When users get a hold of the first Android, they most likely will not have to deal with underpar and rushed applications from developers who had less time to play around with it.</p>
<p>Thats just my opinion which might not make any sense.</p>
<p>Note: this opinion is not of my own, there is a section of my brain that creates  random opinions on the fly thus i have no control of whatever that was written here today</p>
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		<title>By: TareX</title>
		<link>http://www.androidguys.com/2008/06/28/google-should-have-made-the-gphone/comment-page-1/#comment-1793</link>
		<dc:creator>TareX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 18:45:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>gPhone, HTC Dream, Motorola...whatever. I lost all enthusiasm after learning about the pre-Christmas release.

Windows Mobile 7 (with all the next-gen fluidity and UI) will be all over the mobile market, and iPhone 2.0 will have a million 3rd party apps. What will Android have by then? Nothing.

Too late. They underestimated the time factor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gPhone, HTC Dream, Motorola...whatever. I lost all enthusiasm after learning about the pre-Christmas release.</p>
<p>Windows Mobile 7 (with all the next-gen fluidity and UI) will be all over the mobile market, and iPhone 2.0 will have a million 3rd party apps. What will Android have by then? Nothing.</p>
<p>Too late. They underestimated the time factor.</p>
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