November 24, 2014

Will We Soon Forget About Android? Hardly

I’d like to subtitle this post as “Why we’ll all soon forget about Chris O’Brien’s rants

Another day, and another senseless jab towards Android.  When will these bloggers not force us to take up the gauntlet? This time around it’s one Chris O’Brien, of Mercury News who is taking swipes at Android and the Big G with quite a few claims.

O’Brien believes we will all forget about Android.  Tell that to the 1.5million people who have already preordered a G1 and the others who are waiting to get hold of the device once its fully launched,  why don’t you?  For a device deemed “clunky”, those are rather compelling numbers.  Android plays a huge part in Google’s mobile future and, rest assured, it won’t just fade away and die.

“First, it starts off way down the list of operating systems for smart-phones. At the top of the heap are BlackBerry, Windows Mobile, the iPhone and Symbian. This last one is produced by a consortium of the largest cell phone manufacturers in the world, including Ericsson and Nokia.”

Well duh.  It’s brand spankin’ new – where else should it start? Did the iPhone came out holding the number 1 spot? What say you about Windows Mobile? Did it came out reigning at number 1? Android begins at the bottom pile and will rise to the top.

Yes, you say, but this is Google. To which I say: Yes, but this is Google.

The company has been churning out countless initiatives in every direction, but they seem to have no coordination. A year ago, it launched the Open Social initiative to counter Facebook. Heard anything about that lately?

And to that I say sure this is Google, the same Google that turned a lot of people into bloggers with it’s free blogging service “Blogger”.  It’s the same Google that created Gmail which has blown up to become almost ubiquitous.  The Google that will do the same for Android… with the help of the OHA of course.

Why, exactly, is Google doing this? There appears to be no revenue model around Android. There’s no requirement that an Android phone use Google search.

They are doing it for the sake of world peace and the economy. A dumb question deserves a dumb answer I guess, I mean even a caveman could figure that out.

The last problem is a big one. To be competitive, Android must attract developers. Smart-phones, whether the BlackBerry or the iPhone, are increasingly going to be defined by the applications that third parties build to run on them.

On the surface, Android has an appealing pitch: It’s open-source, so anyone can develop any application for these phones.

Sounds great in theory. But many of the widgets I’ve seen built for Open Social are fairly useless. And remember what happened to Facebook when it threw open its platform last year? Developers rushed in with a lot of trivial junk.

Riiight.  I guess if Android were proprietary and locked down every application then they’d be God like, yes? The iPhone’s App Store is filled with junk among the few that is actually worth while.  No matter what you do, it’s difficult to get rid of crap applications (craplication).  So what’s his point then? I still don’t get the worthless ranting.

I had to laugh when i read what this guy had to say.  He is writing about something he has no true knowledge about. Over his head, if you ask me.  Best you leave the Android writing to us AndroidGuys.

  • Jerry

    There are a lot of people writing about Android that have no clue waht’s going on. The thing that made me mad was when there were 100’s of reports saying Android devices were delayed? Tmobile had been the only one saying that they will come out with ANdroid in the fall … Sprint just simply said that they won’t be able to do that.. next thing I know .. everyone is saying that ANdroid was delayed.. and they were blaming Google…

  • Tim

    Agreed on just about all counts. I guess the bloggers feel they can get more hits if they write up some silly comments about Android (and they’re probably right). Will Android be perfect in 1.0? No, and I don’t think anyone is really saying that it will be. I’m sure it’ll have it’s faults, and with only 1 phone out it’ll be hard to get the true feel of the OS. Only time will tell, but I for one hope that Android will make it big.

    One question I have for you is where you got the 1.5 million phones number? I know I saw an announcement that T-mobile expected to sell 500k phones AND that they had tripled their order. But those two stories seemed to come out around the same time so I wasn’t sure if the 500k was before or after the “tripled order”. Is there some reliable source quoting the 1.5 million or is it just some simple math and an assumption? I am NOT trying to give anyone a hard time here, just looking for some clarification.

  • Skypedog

    he said …Why, exactly, is Google doing this? There appears to be no revenue model around Android.

    That is laughable. Lets spell it out in one word… ‘standardization’. Whenever a technology/skill becomes modularized, that is, so easy to work with that only the brainless will default to something else…when that happens the technology/skill/technique starts the process of becoming ‘commoditized’. The reason that happens is because there is now less room for participants in the said technology to differentiate themselves by exploiting some unique adaptation of the original technology. Nothing left to exploit.

    Android will shortly become ‘available’ to every handset marketer, service provider ‘anywhere’ – a solid operating system and development platform – let me say it again, its Open Source and NOBODY else is.

    From and advertising perspective Mobile is just one virgin marketplace – it is untouched and three to four times bigger than the PC market. No revenue model…are you kidding? You can be very sure that Google will enable any Android based device to get the richest possible experience especially from it’s key assets Maps, Earth, YouTube – those offering other operating systems probably wont get that ….they’ll just get plain old vanilla. Everybody’s device can geolocate the nearest Thai restaurant and Map it ….but I think Android users will also be reading the menu and know the owners name!

  • Munjaros

    I loved this line from O’Brian:
    “And while developers are often annoyed over Apple’s restrictions for iPhone applications, having fewer apps to choose from is better for consumers.”

    Say what?

  • Brian

    Tim … you asked about the 1.5 million … here’s the scoop:

    http://www.fool.com/investing/high-growth/2008/10/09/google-were-fresh-out-of-androids.aspx

  • gary

    I think such comment$ are be paid for by the competition…

  • mr natch

    the 1.5 million figure is plucked out of thin air by some motley fools (the clue is in the name, guys). Anybody who thinks that millions are buying a phone that has been gathering tepid reviews, has a lousy collection of apps to choose from, has no multi-touch, no standard headphone socket and is bulky and plasticky has to go and have their head examined.

    Good luck guys, your RDF is certainly stronger than mine.

  • sleebus.jones

    Anyone who believes reviewers over their OWN review needs to have their head examined.

    As for it being “bulky” and “plasticky” I’m willing to bet that you’ve never even held one. I haven’t heard from ONE person yet who’s held one that said it was uncomfortable. In fact, they’ve all reported at how surprised they were at how it felt, given their prior impressions.

    You (and many of your ilk) are just engaging in Argumentum ad Ignorantiam.

  • http://the-anti-google-baloney.blogspot.com/ alex

    hahahahahaha

    dude, If I tried for a hunderd years, I could write a better post than this one!

    Thats why I try to point to the anti-google baloney everyday… Because “cavemen” like this guy, keep on writting this stuff!

    Anyway, SPOT-ON MATE!

    (note: I would have written something like this too, but… VISTA DESTROYED MY PC… ITS NOW COPLETLY DEAD… NOT EVEN HPs Recovery Discs can fix it… Which is almost a good thing, because I am 2-3 days away from my brand new Mac! thanx Vista!)

    http://the-anti-google-baloney.blogspot.com/

  • http://the-anti-google-baloney.blogspot.com/ alex

    ok, I meant “I couldn’t write a better post”

    http://the-anti-google-baloney.blogspot.com/

  • http://the-anti-google-baloney.blogspot.com/ alex

    Ps #3 and I promise I am finished for today!

    DON’T link to this guy… Helping him earn $ through more pageviews is rewarding hatred for Android…
    please don’t do that. I always link to the cool and correct stuff, but these guys?? Hell no…

    http://the-anti-google-baloney.blogspot.com/

  • GreenLeaf

    “Why, exactly, is Google doing this? There appears to be no revenue model around Android.”

    there was a time when Google’s search didn’t have a revenue model… hey Chris O’Brien, i know you are reading this. Why don’t you head back to the hole you crawled out of. YOU INSECT!!

  • Vamien McKalin

    @Alex:

    Did you just say the word Mac? BLASPHEMY!!!!!!!!!!! Alright that’s a joke ;). Seriously you need to try Ubuntu……

  • mr natch

    sleebus.jones said:

    Anyone who believes reviewers over their OWN review needs to have their head examined.

    As for it being “bulky” and “plasticky” I’m willing to bet that you’ve never even held one. I haven’t heard from ONE person yet who’s held one that said it was uncomfortable. In fact, they’ve all reported at how surprised they were at how it felt, given their prior impressions.

    You (and many of your ilk) are just engaging in Argumentum ad Ignorantiam.

    Very ‘robust’ response but completely beside the point.

    First of all, my “ilk” is quoting from real, hands on reviews:

    http://tinyurl.com/4n9nbv
    http://tinyurl.com/4xqv53

    refer to the phone as ‘bulky’, ‘plasticky’ and even ‘cheap’ looking. And those are not the only examples.

    Now, while you were playing up to the cheap seats with a bit of ‘ad hominem’, you managed to totally ignore my main argument:

    This is not the Android phone most people have been waiting for. Apart from the shortcomings I mentioned could mention various more aspects of the phone (video, 24 month contract, only one carrier etc) that indicate to anyone with a bit of sense that this phone will _not_ have sold 1.5 million in advance to pre-ordering consumers.

    Androids time will come, however the G1 is not the best product to showcase it.

  • Gezzy

    What the f u talking about you don’t have to be up for a upgrade to get a upgrade phone if you had t mobile you would know that

  • http://www.jfseostudio.com get web traffic

    yeah everyone wants a shot at android its nuts.